Class Discussion, Room #3
Date
2/25/98
Start log: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 3:16:09 pm Virtual
Park Hall time --
MaggieCa has arrived.
JulieOw has arrived.
JasonOg has arrived.
NickSm has arrived.
FrankBl has arrived.
FrankBl says, "what are we supposed to do"
MaggieCa says, "Well y'all what should we argue today?"
JulieOw says, "so what are arguing today"
JasonOg says, "any other topics"
FrankBl says, "did ya'll decide what you are writing on"
JulieOw says, "not yet"
JasonOg says, "I have no idea"
JasonOg says, "I'll start on my paper tomorrow"
FrankBl says, "I think that I am going to write on lowering the drinking age to 18"
MaggieCa says, "well I was considering the amount of attention that Greek organizations get regarding alcohol consumption"
JulieOw says, "there is always legaliaztion of drugs, drinking and rape, Universities going dry"
JasonOg says, "thanks for the ideas Julie"
NickSm says, "how is the tone of your paper going to be , Maggie?"
FrankBl says, "legalization of rape probably is not a good idea"
JulieOw says, "not what I meant you punk"
JasonOg says, "she didn't mean it like that Frank"
JasonOg says, "you sicko"
FrankBl says, "just kidding"
JulieOw says, "well anyone...anyone"
FrankBl says, "what is going on"
FrankBl says, "we all just quit talking"
JulieOw says, "we have to choose a topic to explore and argue"
JasonOg says, "Bueller......Bueller..."
JulieOw says, "how do you page someone?"
MaggieCa says, "well considering the way that the Red And Black certainly looks down on Greek oraganizations and they advertise that sororities and fraternities promote drinking. Also referring to the Theta Chi case. the pledge got a heck of a
lot more attention than the others who were arrested for the same thing."
FrankBl says, " page (someone) message"
JasonOg says, "type 'page ______'"
MaggieCa says, "something along those lines"
FrankBl says, "that is because the school is out to get the Greeks"
NickSm says, "i think that individual greek groups should be punished, not the entire greek system."
MaggieCa says, "that is so true Frank"
JasonOg says, "I think that will be a unique, interesting topic Maggie"
NickSm says, "not so much a big vendeta, but they do look down upon greeks"
FrankBl says, "it seems like the school is right behind each move"
MaggieCa says, "thanks. I have not asked Mr. Cole yet if that relates though. we'll see"
MaggieCa says, "always"
JulieOw says, "it is not the Greeks fault , they just pick on them because they are an organiztion that is with the school. I am sure many people get trashed and go to the hospital that aren't Greek"
JasonOg says, "So, for today are we going to discuss Maggie's topic"
FrankBl says, "great"
MaggieCa says, "Henri, the theta chi was punished more seriously than the other 2 students who were not Greek"
JulieOw says, "exactly, but why that is really not fair"
FrankBl says, "it is the whole think that since he was a pledge then it was the fraternity's fault"
NickSm says, "yeah, Greeks are just an easy target. I've never once seen the Red and Black write about any philantropic efforts or any other benefitting efforts that fraternities like mine make ."
MaggieCa says, "who got arrested w/i the same month for the same thing"
JasonOg says, "May I first state that I have no problems with the greek, but if I must, I will play the devil's advocate again today"
JoeSa has arrived.
MaggieCa says, "The Greeks don't drink anymore than other students on campus"
JoeSa says, "Mr. Cole told me to come in here because we only have two people"
MaggieCa says, "hello Joe"
JasonOg says, "okay"
JasonOg says, "welcome"
MaggieCa says, "welcome"
JoeSa says, "Hey Maggie"
NickSm says, "so again, maggie, how are you going to focus you paper?"
MaggieCa says, "what do you mean?"
JoeSa says, "I any of you are having problems with stating your argument....."
NickSm says, "what is going to be the topic of your paper, specifically, i just wanted to make sure i have it right"
JasonOg says, "write a quick thesis Maggie"
FrankBl says, "I will be right back"
JasonOg has disconnected
JulieOw says, "wow people are dropping like flies"
JoeSa says, "I would suggest looking at Group one's transcript from yesterday"
JulieOw says, "what did yall discuss"
JoeSa says, ".....if you're having problems with stating an argument"
MaggieCa says, "I am PROBABLY going to discuss that a lot of people drink that go to school here and that maybe half of them are Greek. Three students were arrested w/i the same month, The greek was punished more severly than the others and Why
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FrankBl says, "sorry I went to get something to eat"
MaggieCa says, "my head hurts"
JasonOg has arrived
FrankBl says, "take some advil"
MaggieCa says, "that really doesn't fit our topic though"
MaggieCa says, "please help"
JulieOw says, "Jason don't leave us again K?"
JoeSa says, "Greeks are maybe supposed to live to a higher standard?"
NickSm says, "be carefull on the number of people that you say drink and that are greek. probably a good idea to get stats from some credible source"
JasonOg says, "sorry"
MaggieCa says, "how can I relate the two"
MaggieCa says, "of course"
NickSm says, "just use the incidents at theta chi and kappa sig as examples then..."
JoeSa says, "Hey Maggie, did you find any good sources on the web?"
MaggieCa says, "yes i listed the addresses"
JoeSa says, "Ok just making sure"
MaggieCa says, "should I discuss the punishments?"
JasonOg says, "Maggie, when presenting your examples, you better go ahead and admit that the Greeks do drink, that way the argument against the Greeks will be faced"
MaggieCa says, "definitely"
NickSm says, "uh, you could mention them, but don't stray from the main point of the actual abuse of these substances."
JoeSa says, "true"
MaggieCa says, "thank y'all"
MaggieCa says, "shall we argue?"
NickSm says, "sure, no prob"
JasonOg says, "her argument isn't necessarily about substance abuse, its about the abuse of the greeks"
JoeSa says, "huh?"
JasonOg says, "concerning drinkin"
JulieOw says, "that is what I though"
MaggieCa says, "I keep losing my train of thought"
MaggieCa says, "Not really"
NickSm says, "better state it again maggie"
JasonOg says, "Maggie, what the hell is your topic"
JulieOw says, "exactly I am confused"
JasonOg says, "Julie and I need some help to understand"
NickSm says, "push your up arrow to get the topic you already typed..."
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] MiMa has arrived.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] ScottFr leaves for the One.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] MiMa leaves for the One.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] ShannonMc has arrived.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] ShannonMc leaves for the One.
JoeSa goes out.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] JoeSa has arrived.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] JoeSa leaves for the One.
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] Mr.Cole says, "All you lost group ones. Your group is finally all here, so regroup in your room."
FrankBl says, "are we going to argue or help Magie"
NickSm says, "give her a sec"
JasonOg says, "I can't help if I don't understand Frank"
FrankBl says, "no that is fine I was just wondering what we were doing"
JasonOg says, "where is Maggie?"
MaggieCa says, "I am really not going to center my paper aroun the greeks. I am going to use the specific greek incidents and also the others that happened around the same time to prove that underage consumption does occur and that people do ge
t punished for it. But i am also going to discuss which of the punishments were more fair."
MaggieCa says, "maybe. It is really just an idea still"
NickSm says, "so you are not limiting your argument to just greek examples?"
MaggieCa says, "no"
FrankBl says, "that sounds like a great topic but can you write a full paper on it"
JasonOg says, "Maggie, I'm sorry, but I still don't get it"
NickSm says, "ok, good. "
MaggieCa says, "well I am sorry Jason "
JulieOw laughs
JasonOg says, "I know what you are saying, but it doesn't coinside with each other"
MaggieCa says, "i really haven't given too much thought yet. We'll have to see what happens OKAY"
JasonOg says, "You need a more specific argument"
FrankBl says, "is yourpaper going to be based around the greeks or fair punishment"
NickSm says, "i think go hand in hand,really. the examples will make it specific"
JasonOg says, "keep screaming at me"
MaggieCa says, "neither"
FrankBl says, "then I am confused now"
NickSm says, "not just greeks, frank, all incidents. right Maggie?"
MaggieCa says, "yes. they are just examples"
FrankBl says, "OK"
JasonOg says, "You cannot argue that people are unfairly punished for underaged drinking, it is against the LAW"
MaggieCa says, "y'all. I am not sure yet if i am going to write about this at all. it is still just an idea"
MaggieCa says, "i am not going to Jason"
FrankBl says, "sorry we are jumping all over you about your idea"
MaggieCa says, "no problem, i need help"
JasonOg says, "you have to argue something, you just can't write about incidents"
FrankBl says, "you could just argue that some people are treated unfairly because of who they are "
JasonOg says, "and who are they"
MaggieCa has disconnected.
JasonOg says, "frank"
FrankBl says, "yes"
JasonOg says, "who gets punished unfairly"
JulieOw says, "uh oh yall made her mad"
JasonOg says, "I didn't mean to"
JulieOw says, "just kidding"
FrankBl says, "I am just saying that people who are in fraternities are publicized more than any ordinary person"
MaggieCa has connected.
MaggieCa says, "I'm back"
JasonOg says, "then the paper is about Greeks being treated unfairly, which she said it is not about"
JulieOw says, "good it wasn't the same w/o ya"
MaggieCa says, "thanks"
FrankBl says, "you could bring in others than just greeks"
MaggieCa says, "that is my plan if I use this topic at all"
JasonOg says, "I think a paper about Greeks being treated differently for drinking would be a great topic"
JulieOw says, "I do too"
FrankBl says, "many importent people get bad reps because they have people watching down their neck"
MaggieCa says, "Thanks Jason"
FrankBl says, "i agree"
JasonOg says, "I'v been saying this the whole time, and I just get yelled at"
NickSm says, "sorry but i got to go. see ya."
NickSm has disconnected.
FrankBl says, "what just happened"
JasonOg says, "Nick left"
FrankBl says, "why"
MaggieCa says, "i am sorry if you thought i was yelling. I apologize"
JasonOg says, "cool"
JulieOw says, "yeah don't be so sensitive Jase"
JasonOg cries
FrankBl says, "have we accomplised anything in this class"
MaggieCa says, "no"
MaggieCa says, "let's quickly change the subject"
JasonOg says, "damn it, if we do nothing else, we are going to decide Maggie's topic"
JulieOw says, "well we gave maggie about 400 topics for her paper"
FrankBl says, "all we have done is try to explain her topic the whole time "
MaggieCa says, "go for it"
FrankBl says, "have you decided on one"
JasonOg says, "My suggestion is arguing that Greeks are treated unfairly for drinking"
MaggieCa says, "I probably won't until I sit down and start writing"
JulieOw says, "ok it is settled next subject or argument I should say"
MaggieCa says, "great idea"
JasonOg says, "There is a thesis ' Greeks are treated unfairly by authorities for drinkin"
FrankBl says, "beautifully put jason"
MaggieCa says, "thank you"
JasonOg says, "Now we can move on, lets talk about the weather"
MaggieCa says, "sorry i caused so much confusion y'all."
JulieOw says, "is anyone writing about the legalization of drugs?"
JasonOg says, "I might be"
MaggieCa says, "which drugs?"
FrankBl says, "I am not"
JulieOw says, "well let's argue....if you are up for it"
FrankBl says, "lets go"
The housekeeper arrives to cart NickSm off to bed.
JulieOw says, "i am not either, I don't care eiter way"
JasonOg says, "the problem with that topic is that the papers are suppose to be about Substance Abuse ON CAMPUS"
MaggieCa says, "i hate to open a new can of worms, but that same heavy breather is back "
JasonOg says, ""how does he look today"
MaggieCa pulls her hair out out of frustration
JasonOg says, "Ask his name"
MaggieCa says, "let's not do this again i just had to tell y'all"
JulieOw laughs
JasonOg says, "I don't know Frank, I think I sense sexual tension"
MaggieCa says, "aren't there some articles on line about drug legalization"
JulieOw says, "I thought we could write about anything, mr. cole was the one who suggested the legalization topic"
MaggieCa says, "i'll be right back"
MaggieCa goes out.
JasonOg says, "go get it Maggs"
FrankBl says, "my computer is over heating with the tension"
JasonOg says, "Maggie is about to have a good time"
JasonOg says, "So Julie, lets talk about your love life"
FrankBl says, "not about she is having a good time"
JasonOg says, "who was your Valentine"
JulieOw says, "Jase I just paged mr. c to ask about that topic and how far we could stray"
FrankBl says, "Julie you can talk to us"
JulieOw says, "Well....I didn't have a valentine unfortunately"
JasonOg says, "come on babe, tell us your desires"
FrankBl says, "did you Jason"
MaggieCa has arrived.
JasonOg says, "Hell no, I got drunk"
FrankBl says, "cheap date"
JasonOg says, "what about you Frank"
JulieOw says, "exactly what I did, drowned in my sorrows"
FrankBl says, "I have a girlfriend at Ole Miss"
MaggieCa says, "y'all i am leaving early my head is killing me"
JasonOg says, "yeah, right , and mines in Canada"
FrankBl says, "go for it"
FrankBl says, "are you going home alone"
JulieOw says, "jason mr. c just wrote me back and said that would be a great topic you should look at group twos transcripts"
MaggieCa goes out.
JasonOg says, "alright, thanks Jules"
FrankBl says, "what topic"
JulieOw says, "no prob"
JasonOg says, "legalization"
JulieOw says, "anything for my group"
FrankBl says, "you are the greatest Julie"
JulieOw blushes
JasonOg says, "You are the Queen"
FrankBl says, "how cute"
FrankBl says, "Jason are you going to become her King"
JasonOg says, "if she'll have me"
JulieOw blushes even more
FrankBl says, "that is if she will let you"
FrankBl says, "smooth Jason"
JasonOg says, "I never thought I would be one of those guys who starts relationships over the internet"
JasonOg says, "I'm a virtual virgin"
FrankBl says, "you are going to end up on Springer about this one"
JulieOw laughs alot
JasonOg says, "he won't have me on, who will I fight"
JulieOw says, "oh I will bring frank on and tel you we have been cheating and yall two can fight"
FrankBl says, "I don't know we get somebody from the crowd to rush you"
FrankBl says, "maybe one of her ex-boyfriends"
JasonOg kicks Frank in the knee
FrankBl punches Jason very hard
JasonOg gets the crap beat out of him by the bald security guy
JulieOw says, "so guys I guess we forgot about our topic a while ago, huh"
FrankBl is kicked of stage and told not to come back
JasonOg says, "who cares, the sun is shining"
JulieOw says, "I LOVE baldy"
JasonOg gets one last shot at Frank
FrankBl says, "oh so is that how you like it"
JulieOw laughs
JasonOg says, "you are either talking trash to me, or being filthy to Julie"
FrankBl says, "have you always gone after young men"
JulieOw says, "people probably think I am insane, sitting here laughing like hell at my computer"
FrankBl says, "filthy"
[Mr.Cole's Classroom] Mr.Cole says, "It's time folks. Wrap it up and you can leave. We will have some lecture and a bit more discussion tomorrow."
FrankBl says, "see ya'll"
JasonOg has disconnected.
FrankBl goes out.
JulieOw has disconnected.
The housekeeper arrives to cart JasonOg off to bed.
The housekeeper arrives to cart JulieOw off to bed.
End log: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 4:26:06 pm Virtual Park Hall time --