Class Discussion,
Main Room
Date 2/10/98
Start log: Tuesday, February 10, 1998
3:21:19 pm Virtual Park Hall time --
JasonOg says, "let's try to stay in class today, Kurt"
Mr.Cole says, "Hi folks."
JasonOg says, "hey Mr.c"
MiMa says, "hello"
KurtDa says, "what, I just got here"
KurtDa says, "I don't know what your talking about"
JulieOw has arrived.
JenniferCa has arrived.
KurtDa says, "let's try and stay awake today jason, nobody likes drool on the lab keyboards"
JoeSa has arrived.
JenniferCa says, "ewww Jason"
JasonOg says, "shut up"
KurtDa says, "I'm just telling it like it is...."
JasonOg says, "pervert"
NickSm has arrived.
GeraldLa has arrived.
KurtDa says, "What?"
JasonOg says, "you heard me"
KurtDa says, "I don't know what your talking about"
FrankBl has arrived.
KurtDa says, "let's try and stay awake today jason, nobody likes drool on the lab keyboards"
KurtDa says, "let's try and stay awake today jason, nobody likes drool on the lab keyboards"
FrankBl says, "howdy"
KurtDa says, "let's try and stay awake today jason, nobody likes drool on the lab keyboards"
KurtDa says, "let's try and stay awake today jason, nobody likes drool on the lab keyboards"
NickSm says, "Chasing Amy is on..."
JasonOg says, "stop it"
KurtDa says, "that's a great movie"
Mr.Cole says, "AHEM!"
FrankBl says, "what channel"
MiMa says, "hey Joe! Do you want to eat with me, Steve, Cristi, and possibly Al?"
JasonOg is about to take a nap
AndrewGo has arrived.
KurtDa slaps Jason to keep him awake
JoeSa says, "yeah, it seems that the only things we do all together is eat"
JoeSa laughs.
AndrewGo says, "Hello everyone"
MiMa says, "hopefully, tonite I won't get sick"
KurtDa says, "What up"
NickSm says, "so mr. cole, you liked the dialogue in class yesterday?"
JoeSa says, "I heard about last night"
MiMa says, "what?!"
MiMa says, "from who?"
JoeSa says, "cant tell"
Mr.Cole says, "Yes, Nick. I thought all the discussions went very well. They got into some depth."
MiMa says, "why not, was it bad?"
KurtDa says, "oh man, it's getting good now"
JoeSa says, "actually, maybe later"
FrankBl says, "what happened Mi Anne"
KurtDa says, ""yea, I heard about it to"
JoeSa says, "nothing happened, I was just Joshin"
JasonOg says, "I heard about it"
MiMa says, "shut up Kurt"
KurtDa says, "that's not very nice...."
MiMa says, "so you don't know what happened last nite?"
JoeSa says, "Uhhh, right"
Mr.Cole says, "Well, there are still a few stragglers out there, but I would like to get started. "
JoeSa says, "I'll talk to ya later"
MiMa says, "i'll tell you later"
Mr.Cole says, "For today, I want to continue the discussions begun yesterday."
Mr.Cole says, "I would like you to return to your groups for about 10-15 minutes, just long enough to come up with a consensus about what you discussed yesterday (a clearly defined lack of consensus is acceptable as well). Those of you who can
view the Web at the same time might want to take a quick look at your transcript to refresh your memories."
Mr.Cole says, "Appoint a leader who will report your group's results and then return to the main room."
Mr.Cole says, "I will give each leader a chance to report and then I want to try to pull together these threads of discussion into some more general discussion of this topic."
Mr.Cole says, "If there are no questions, get started."
MiMa leaves for the One.
GeraldLa leaves for the One.
KurtDa leaves for the One.
AndrewGo leaves for the Three.
FrankBl leaves for the One.
JasonOg leaves for the Three.
JoeSa leaves for the Three.
JenniferCa says, "ewww Jasonone"
JulieOw leaves for the One.
FrankBl has arrived.
FrankBl leaves for the Two.
NickSm leaves for the Three.
JenniferCa leaves for the One.
Mr.Cole leaves for the Two.
WendyFr has arrived.
WendyFr leaves for the Two.
WendyFr has arrived.
WendyFr leaves for the One.
Mr.Cole has arrived.
WendyFr has arrived.
WendyFr leaves for the Two.
ScottFr has arrived.
ScottFr say, "hey, is everybody in their rooms"
Mr.Cole says, "Hi Scott. A little late...."
ScottFr say, "traffic"
Mr.Cole says, "Yes, but I'm getting ready to call people out."
ScottFr say, "k"
ScottFr leaves for the Two.
AnandVy has arrived.
Mr.Cole says, "Hi Anand."
AnandVy says, "Hi Mr. Cole, sorry I'm late It was busy over and over again"
Mr.Cole says, "You should join your group, but we are going to be coming back in here soon."
AnandVy leaves for the Two.
Mr.Cole says, "OK, folks, finish up and come out here in the next couple minutes"
MiMa has arrived.
KurtDa has arrived.
JenniferCa has arrived.
GeraldLa has arrived.
JulieOw has arrived.
KurtDa says, "Hello everyone, give me a sec about our consensus, I need to type it"
JulieOw says, "ok"
Mr.Cole says, "Hurry up please, It's time."
AnandVy has arrived.
WendyFr has arrived.
JoeSa has arrived.
NickSm has arrived.
FrankBl has arrived.
JasonOg has arrived.
ShannonMc has arrived.
WendyFr says, "SHANNON!!"
FrankBl says, "Wendy if you have any input jump in at any time we just will not have a leader"
AndrewGo has arrived.
WendyFr says, "OK"
ShannonMc says, "My head is fixing to explode!"
FrankBl says, "what you been up to Shannon"
ShannonMc says, "somebody give me a gun"
WendyFr laughs.
FrankBl says, "hungover"
ShannonMc says, "My head is throbbing"
ShannonMc says, "No Frank"
Mr.Cole whistles to get everyone's attention.
JulieOw says, "guns aren't the answer"
FrankBl says, "sure I believe you"
ShannonMc slaps Frank
JenniferCa says, "yeah ive been sick too"
JasonOg laughs
ScottFr has arrived.
KurtDa says, "group one thinks that the thing about technology
is that we are not afraid of it, we just don't neccessarily like it.
It's impossible for us to learn it all, so we just learn what we need or
want, and not worry about the rest. Other than warfare though, I don't
think technology can do us a whole lot of harm."
Mr.Cole says, "OK, let us begin. I think we'll just go in
order and get the reports first, and then open things up."
FrankBl says, "group two has a few different points that we
never agreed on"
Mr.Cole says, "Go ahead, Frank"
KurtDa says, "I already said my points"
WendyFr claps.
KurtDa says, "thank you Wendy, but why are you clapping"
KurtDa says, "?"
WendyFr says, "don't worry about it :)"
Mr.Cole says, "While Frank is typing, Group 3 should also
prepare their response"
JoeSa says, "OK"
JasonOg says, "good man, Joe"
KurtDa says, "good girl Jason"
AndrewGo laughs.
KurtDa laughs.
FrankBl says, "I think that technology has not overcome nature
but works with it a lot. There are many times when you need that person to person meeting in buisness. I think that technology is great but has not and will not conquer nature"
JasonOg is furious
AnandVy says, "I beleive that this technology we have created
will be the end of mankind. We are just one of millions of species that
will eventually go extinct. It's really not that big a deal. We as
humans began to put up walls and such to keep nature out in efforts to
control our environment. But we did not stop there. We've built planes,
ships, etc. The earth is now responding with pollution, the hole in the
ozone, acid rain, and all the other problems us humans are facing today.
It's our own fault. The earth wants us gone. And I do not blame her."
AndrewGo says, "Real optimistic there, Anand"
KurtDa says, "Um.........."
Mr.Cole says, "Thanks, Group 2. Whatcha got, three?"
JasonOg thinks that Kurt and Andy can both go to h%#^
AnandVy says, "I am very optimistic by nature. But I'm also a realist."
FrankBl says, "how can you say that it is not a big deal"
KurtDa says, "the ozone layer would deplet without us chief, its the earth's natural heating that occurs after you leave an iceage"
AndrewGo says, "Heh, heh, heh I didn't say anything"
JenniferCa says, "Jason calm down please"
AnandVy says, "Because all stars and planets in the universe go through life cycles. Why are we any more special and immune to the ravages of the universe."
ScottFr say, "I am in no way in agreement with Anand"
FrankBl says, "neither am I \"
KurtDa says, "me neither"
Mr.Cole gives a stern look at Jason and Kurt.
WendyFr says, "what do you think Scott?"
KurtDa wistles
WendyFr smiles.
AnandVy says, "What do you mean by chief?"
ScottFr say, "I think humans we prevail"
ScottFr say, "will"
FrankBl says, "Scott I put something up so look at it before you answer"
JenniferCa says, "i agree with anand....it is our fault the earth is dying"
KurtDa says, "just one of my little words I use....you know how it goes"
ShannonMc says, "me too"
ScottFr say, "it isn't dyingh"
KurtDa says, "no, I think it's our fault we're dying"
ScottFr say, "its alive and well"
AndrewGo says, "Okay, but we are trying to reverse it"
ShannonMc says, "but it is wasting away day by day"
AnandVy says, "You're blind if you don't think it's dying."
ScottFr say, "NO ONE IS DYING"
JoeSa says, "We agree with the idea that imformation should be on the web. Though, the art of looking things up in books is lost, it still allows searchers to find information quickly and use it. I somewhat agree with Birkerts when he said th
at eventually all the information in the world will be on the web but I think it is still an effective place for finding information."
MaggieCa has arrived.
KurtDa says, "life is a fatal disease from which we all suffer"
ScottFr say, "your blind in your ways for thinking its dyinng"
ShannonMc says, "We"I agree with Kut"
JenniferCa says, "you cant reverse it the way people keep cutting trees"
ScottFr say, "b/c of us"
ShannonMc says, "Kurt"
AndrewGo says, "What about replanting"
AnandVy says, "Scott really, even scientists agree its dying and can't support us."
MaggieCa says, "sorry i'm late. everyone is registering on these computers"
FrankBl says, "if it has taken this long to just do that little damage"
GeraldLa says, "don't even start withthe tree cutting"
ScottFr say, "only your scientists"
ScottFr say, "not mine"
MaggieCa leaves for the Three.
KurtDa says, "I think you should move to the moon"
AnandVy says, "Ask any of yours."
JenniferCa says, "we have no room for replanting because we have to build places for all the people to live"
KurtDa says, "I don't own any scientists"
AndrewGo says, "I know we can't mend somethings, but hopefully scienece can help"
ScottFr say, "and if it dies by that time we will have found other places to live, its called technology"
MaggieCa has arrived.
AnandVy says, "Ask the Biologists at this university and they will tell you the same thing."
MaggieCa says, "what's going on"
ScottFr say, "screw'm"
KurtDa says, "we have the technology to help preserve the environment, we just don't use it"
JenniferCa says, "tech cant fix it when we have no oxygen to breathe"
AnandVy says, "Nice language use Scott."
ScottFr say, "gratsi"
MiMa says, "i agree with jenny"
AnandVy says, "I agree with Jennifer."
KurtDa says, "I think your a little paranoid, they have meetings for that you know....."
GeraldLa says, ""you couldn't be more wrong, sorry jenny. that may be the case in atlanta but where i'm from there's plenty of room"
WendyFr says, "this is crazy"
AndrewGo says, "What is with all the negativity. For a bunch tree huggers, ya'll sound pretty poed"
Mr.Cole says, "OK. We have three or four positions to start from: technology is neat but won't replace natural contact; technology removes us from nature, our proper domain; and technology can be a useful part of learning about our world. Is th
at a fair summary? "
JenniferCa says, "yeah but whos gonna live in tha desert"
AnandVy says, "Sure. But hey all go hand in hand."
KurtDa says, "um....ok"
JoeSa says, "yes sir"
MiMa says, "ok"
AnandVy says, "they all go hand in hand I mean"
MaggieCa says, "okay"
GeraldLa says, "who said anything about the desert"
ShannonMc says, "yes sir"
AnandVy says, "I'm not hte one who's paranoid. You people are atacking me."
FrankBl says, "even with what yuo are saying right now Anand you are contradicting yourself from yesterday when you said that nature does not controll us"
ScottFr say, "some scientisits think there is global warming, but they are wrong just like this earth is dying crap"
KurtDa says, "sorry, but I think most of the class disagrees with you"
AnandVy says, "I said that we try to control nature. Try is the key word."
AnandVy says, "Well this class will learn one day."
KurtDa says, "we all have points in common, but you seem to be the most extreme"
FrankBl says, "no you said that we controll nature through technology"
JenniferCa says, "yeah they will anand"
ScottFr say, "sure thing Ein"
AnandVy says, "I said we try and sometimes we achieve it."
Mr.Cole says, "So, let's stop with the slander. How do those three positions relate? Are they opposed to each other, complemetary, what?"
AndrewGo says, "So you believe the earth will die when we are still alive"
ScottFr say, "of course you know everything and we know nothing"
KurtDa says, "you can'tcontrol nature, it will control itself, and if that means giving humans the boot, see ya"
JasonOg says, "why don't ya'll lay off"
WendyFr says, "Ok, everyone calm down. Mr. Cole?"
FrankBl says, "Scott you were there did he not say that we controll nature"
JoeSa says, "I think they are complementary"
AnandVy says, "No it will remove us first. I mean the things has been through fires and ice ages, we are mere pests."
ScottFr say, "yeah, he said that we have mastered nature not just controlled it"
AnandVy says, "For the earth"
ScottFr say, "smart man"
AndrewGo says, "Of course "
GeraldLa says, "there will always be life on earth"
AndrewGo says, "But these changes are measured in eons not years"
AnandVy says, "Yes."
FrankBl says, "it is through you saying that we controll the earth through energy that we hit on religion"
KurtDa says, "not there won't "
Mr.Cole says, "You guys are having a good debate, but let's slow it down and get some reasoning behind it."
AnandVy says, "I mean no."
ScottFr say, "pests, good I am glad we are pests in your eyes, self-confidence is high"
JoeSa says, "technology can be all of those points that were stated earlier"
JenniferCa says, "if anyone reads nostrodomus you know we will be gone by 2000"
ShannonMc laughs
ScottFr say, "outstanding 2 more years"
JasonOg says, "I read nostrodomus Jen"
AnandVy says, "In the earths eyes. Not mine. Why are you taking everything so literal. Think deeper man."
GeraldLa says, "thats funny"
KurtDa says, "depends on how you translate him"
JasonOg says, "Saddam is the third anti-christ and will destroy us all"
JoeSa says, "cant we all just get along?!"
AnandVy says, "It does depend on the translation."
FrankBl says, "Scott did you not here him yesterday say that humans controll nature"
JenniferCa says, "right on Jason"
ScottFr say, "tell us all Ein"
WendyFr says, "good call, Joe"
JoeSa says, "thanks former partner"
WendyFr smiles.
AnandVy says, "Frank for the last time I said we try. That is technologies goal."
ScottFr say, "yes, he said we mastered nature"
KurtDa says, "we are thinking deep, we're just not taking the pessamistic approach. Stress will kill you man, take it easy"
FrankBl says, "thank you I just wanted to prove that you contraadict yourself"
AnandVy says, "You mistake my pessimism for realism"
ScottFr say, "false-realism"
JasonOg says, "I need nicotine"
WendyFr laughs.
AndrewGo says, "Same here"
ShannonMc laughs
KurtDa says, "me too"
JenniferCa says, "that stuff is bad for you Jason"
AnandVy says, "We can fly faster than any bird and swim faster than any fish. i'd say we've mastered part of nature."
KurtDa says, "what a good fight....I mean debate"
FrankBl says, "you know that you love it jenny"
AndrewGo says, "He is being real"
Mr.Cole says, "OK, we have one point of disagreement, namely whether the earcth is in a state of crisis. You might recall a similar debate between Kevin Kelly and Kirkpatrick Sale in "interview with the luddite.""
JasonOg says, "we only have till 2000 Jen, it won't bother me"
ScottFr say, "sure thing Ein"
JenniferCa says, "i used to smoke, now i think its gross"
KurtDa says, "whats up Scott, we know about the Luddites"
Mr.Cole says, "What are the points in _favor_ of a global technologica crisis?"
ScottFr say, "thats right Kurt, you read my response"
JoeSa says, "Air pollution from factories"
KurtDa says, "do you mean like "yea!! we're in crisis!!" or what"
AnandVy says, "Acid rain. pollution, ozone depletion (which is not natural by any means)"
ScottFr say, "nothing but a bunch of false advertising"
KurtDa says, "yep"
KurtDa says, "Ozone is"
AnandVy says, "The depletion is not."
KurtDa says, "as is acid rain, we just aid the process"
JoeSa says, "Noise pollution from debaters off the topic"
JenniferCa says, "the ozone would fix if we quit cutting trees"
KurtDa says, "yes it is"
Mr.Cole says, "We can debate causality later, let's just get the potential evidence out first."
ScottFr say, "anand, do you believe in Global Warming"
ShannonMc says, "car pollution aids in acid rain"
AnandVy says, "Come on man. If there were just lions and tiger and bears here they would not be able to do the damage we ahev done."
ShannonMc says, "that's why people should try to carpool"
JenniferCa says, "we sould all get horses"
GeraldLa says, "why are you so against cutting trees"
ShannonMc laughs
ScottFr say, "alright, who says lets just kill all of us and let the bears take over"
AnandVy says, "Because they take a hundred years to grow and one second to cut down. Sad."
ShannonMc laughs again
KurtDa says, "your right, as does O3 or ozone, when its too low, which happens when the sun breaks down th molecules.....completely naturally"
AndrewGo says, "Ever seen the movie 12 monkeys"
JenniferCa says, "because there are other plants that use less space and make the same products as tress..including oxygen"
JoeSa says, "Yeah, Jennifer, but you forget that Horses fart which is also bad for the environment"
JoeSa says, "or maybe cows"
ShannonMc says, "so do we Joe"
JenniferCa says, "thats natural gas Joe"
WendyFr laughs.
AnandVy says, "Interesting."
GeraldLa says, "it takes about 16 years to grow a loblolly pine tree so that it is ready to be cut as pulpwood"
KurtDa says, "okay, this is taking a comical turn......"
ScottFr say, "anand, Global Warming?"
Mr.Cole says, "Um, so the main point for a crisis is the environment generally, particularly industrial pollution."
JoeSa says, "yeah but they release natural gas exponentially in relation ot ours"
JasonOg says, "yes"
JoeSa says, "yes sir"
KurtDa says, "no"
JenniferCa says, "then dont swallow so much air and just burp it all out too"
AnandVy says, "Kind of."
ScottFr say, "explain"
MaggieCa says, "exactly. we dont't need to necessarily invent things to TRY to control nature, but we need to stop ddoing the thinsgs we do that cause polution and such."
WendyFr says, "sure"
Mr.Cole says, "So, those who argue there is _no_ crisis or that technology is not part of it, what evidence can ytou offer?"
AnandVy says, "They can offer nothing. "
KurtDa says, "It is a big part, don't get me wrong, but each person is just as bad as is the earth which hurts itself so it can grow in the long run"
AnandVy says, "What?!"
ScottFr say, "there isn't a crisis"
KurtDa says, "um,,,,nevermind"
Mr.Cole says, "Let them speak, Anand."
JoeSa says, "well maybe not particularly industrial pollution but from private individuals...."
Mr.Cole says, "I meant by 'industrial pollution,' pollution from an industial society."
KurtDa says, "excuse me, we can't offer anything?"
ScottFr say, "volcanoes let of more carbon dixoide than we have yet the earth is still here"
JoeSa says, "Ex. Littering, smoking, things that are bad for the land and air"
KurtDa says, "oh, that's diffrent, I agree with that"
ScottFr say, "off"
JoeSa says, "I didnt know that Scott"
Mr.Cole says, "No-crisis people aren't offering me much in defense of their position..."
FrankBl says, "are you there Shannon or have you already left"
ScottFr say, "humans give off 1.5 pounds of carbon dixoide a day whereas cars give off 2.5 and there are a helluva lot more humans than cars, but by what anand says we don't deserve to live here anyway"
JenniferCa says, "we dont, we dont take care of it"
MaggieCa says, "Like everything else, if we are going to try to stay here for a long time we have to start with ourselves"
ScottFr say, "then go kill yourself"
AndrewGo says, "Come on now"
JoeSa says, "WOW"
AnandVy says, "We came her with nothing. Everything we have we took from the earth. Minerals, food, water, element. All taken from here. And now we pretend that the earth owes us something. I think humans think way too much of themselves if
they beleive this notion of the earth being just as responsible."
MaggieCa says, "y'all need to ease up a little"
ShannonMc has disconnected.
JenniferCa says, "i have my plans of ruling the world"
ScottFr say, "the earth is here for us, use it"
JoeSa says, ":agrees with Maggie"
JoeSa says, "woops"
AndrewGo says, "Just don't destroy it in the process"
KurtDa says, "we have no idea how bad the crisis is, because
you have pessimists (or realist as some would say) how do research and
stretch the facts and super opptimists who stretch the facts the other
way. the facts are that things such as ozone depletion are just as much
natural as they are aided by us. Anyone with questions take GGY 200 next
quarter"
Mr.Cole says, "What I'm hearing so far (from both 'sides') is
a lot of _rhetoric_ but not a lot of substance. I am trying to take you
through the steps of building a logical arguyment."
GeraldLa says, "yesterday you wanted to live in tents and kill
animals with rocks, now your going to rule the world"
JenniferCa says, "the earth is not here for us, it was here first"
FrankBl says, "well how do ya'll feel about OJ"
Mr.Cole says, "Interesting point, Kurt."
GeraldLa says, "guilty"
AnandVy says, "I've taken the course. And I think you
misunderstood it."
AndrewGo says, "Fry 'em"
ScottFr say, "then go live like an animal"
JenniferCa says, "i mean the rule the world"
JoeSa says, "you go girl"
AnandVy says, "I would love to live like the Blue Lagoon
couple. One woman one man, nature."
ScottFr say, "go do it and stop wasting my tax money"
FrankBl says, "I will live with Brooke Sheilds anyday"
MaggieCa says, "we were meant to be here. this world was
meant for us. We didn't just decide one day to pick up and come to earth
to ruin it . Somehow, by someone or something, we were placed here to live."
AnandVy says, "I think you're wasting mine."
JoeSa says, "therll be alot of tarzans running around"
AndrewGo says, "You were raised on technology, there is now
way you would survive"
JenniferCa says, "it would be better i f we lived like people
used to....and not even worry about money"
ScottFr say, "by doing what"
Mr.Cole says, "People, FOCUS. This is how you _should_ be
establishing you positions in papers you write. Figure out a point that
is in debate. Consider the arguments that could be possible on each side.
Weigh those sets of arguments to figure out the better position. "
AnandVy says, "With love I think I would. That is the great
redeeming quality of humans. This idea of love."
ScottFr say, "I have to talk to my brother first he was a EAS
major at Tech"
JasonOg says, "this is getting to personal"
KurtDa says, "Afraid it was you man, I've taking that course
as well as any other, I think you jsut listened to the points the teacher
made about us hurting the environment and slept through the parts where
he explained how nature works in any situation. I've been taking
seminars since 9th grade on this stuff and have been to all kinds of
environmental conferences, so i think I know what the hell i'm talking
about "
WendyFr says, "I agree"
Mr.Cole says, "A lot of what was said today is heavy on
emotion (mostly anger) and low on logic. That doesn't work in essays (or,
as we have seen in conversation. it just gets people mad at each other)."
WendyFr says, "with Jason"
AndrewGo says, "Everyone here could not live in the wilderness
based on the simple fact that we were raised on computers and tv's, not
berries and rocks"
ScottFr say, "I have said some facts"
JoeSa says, "technology is what is enabling us to take this
class!"
KurtDa says, "as have I"
AndrewGo says, "Good call"
AnandVy says, "Possibly Adrew. Possiblyy."
WendyFr says, "right on"
The housekeeper arrives to cart ShannonMc off to bed.
AndrewGo says, "So, whyu complain about technology when it was
your surget parent"
ScottFr say, "Thank you, but I have survived a week in the
wilderness without any crap"
KurtDa says, "springer must be on"
AnandVy says, "It's here. It does'nt mean it is good."
ScottFr say, "and could keep going if I had too"
GeraldLa says, "where scott"
ScottFr say, "Virginia"
AndrewGo says, "But you use it everyday--going to class,
washing yourself, eating, everything"
GeraldLa says, "with nothing, no lighter, food or nothing"
AnandVy says, "it's hard to answer everones questions and answers."
WendyFr says, "I'm confused"
AndrewGo says, "What is bad about a refrigator, honestly"
FrankBl says, "so am I"
ScottFr say, "I had clothes, some flint, stuff like that"
MiMa says, "Joe, call me after class so we can get a time to
meet for dinner"
AnandVy says, "As Einstein said, "Great minds have always had
opposition from mediocre minds" Excluding present company of course."
JoeSa says, "OK"
GeraldLa says, "flint as in the rock that indians used to make
arrowheads or lighter flint"
ScottFr say, "you go Ein"
AnandVy says, "Paraphrasing a bit."
FrankBl says, "so you are the Great Mind"
KurtDa says, "so you're a mediocre mind or what"
Mr.Cole says, "Well, time is just about up. Although this got
a bit catty, I think this discussion is instructive."
AnandVy says, "No."
MiMa says, "it was ok"
AnandVy says, "We all are."
FrankBl says, "who elected you the freat mind of the world"
JasonOg says, "I didn't like today"
MaggieCa says, "sorry i was late"
WendyFr says, "me either, Jason"
ScottFr say, "adios"
AndrewGo says, "Man, ya'll guys are impossible"
Mr.Cole says, "More a negative example than anything else.
Good debate has to rely on logic rather than namecalling and posturing."
JasonOg leaves with a sad face
ScottFr goes out.
JasonOg goes out.
GeraldLa has disconnected.
Mr.Cole says, "Try to keep that in mind. See y'all tomorrow."
MiMa says, "bye everyone, talk to you in a minute Joe!"
FrankBl has disconnected.
AndrewGo goes out.
KurtDa leaves pissed off
JenniferCa has disconnected.
MiMa has disconnected.
WendyFr goes out.
AnandVy says, "It is difficult to answer on a keyboard everone
attacking my point."
JulieOw has disconnected.
KurtDa goes out.
AnandVy wonder whether he should even dare speak againg, lest
his head may be cut off
End log: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 4:16:38 pm Virtual Park Hall time --